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I am going to let everyone toss their arms up in the air for a little while over this before they realize it isn’t a big deal. The only issue I have is that 360 students will get extra time for the lab. That’s if it really does take you thirty minutes to answer them to begin with…

Are the open ended questions worth the cost of both 360 sessions at $3995 a piece to skip them? To me the answer is no. I should be able to pass them anyways as I did on my first attempt. Now the big question is will the OEQs be coming off soon and is this a quick grab for the 360 program before they do?

Beginning April 1, 2010, Cisco will allow Cisco 360 Learning Program students who attend a Cisco CCIE® Routing and Switching or CCIE Voice workshop to request a waiver and skip the Core Knowledge Section of the CCIE lab exam. All waiver requests must be approved by the workshop instructor. No end date for the Core Knowledge Waiver has been announced, but Cisco will provide at least 60 days’ notice before discontinuing the waiver.

During a Cisco 360 Learning Program workshop, students complete a series of performance assessments that demonstrate their understanding of the CCIE material and serve the same purpose as the Core Knowledge section of the exam. Therefore, Cisco 360 Learning Program students who use the waiver will not be required to type out answers to the Core Knowledge questions and will be allowed to move immediately to the next section of the lab exam.

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6 Responses to “Cisco 360 Learning Program Core Knowledge Waiver”

  1. Darby Weaver on March 17th, 2010 12:57 pm

    Well…

    You may be right – It seems Narbik has been challenged – No… wait “Double-Dog Dared” – to not issue waivers to his students by a Groupstudy.com person named Redrose (that looks like the real surname of the person).

    So if the OEQ is really “No Big Deal”…

    1. Why offer it in the first place?

    2. Why is no one passing and some (many by now) claiming that they even passed the lab nearly perfectly and missed the OEQ…?

    3. If Narbik takes the bate and publicly announces he will not honor the waiver then I’ll be more inclined to see your point about the OEQ being “No Big Deal”.

    Right now it is just that… a very big deal or am I the only one reading the threads.

    If the OEQ questions are bad for the Cisco 360 Instructors and the CCIE Program…

    They should be bad for all instructors.

    No favoritism.

    Besides… how many have passed the CCIE Labs from the 360… any?

    If a decent percentage were passing… hell if 50% were passing… I might agree with you…

    The numbers are not there to support the proposition that the Cisco 360 Instructors are doing a good enough job to exempt their students.

    More people are passing and reporting non-360 materials and classes…

    Why aren’t those students exempt.

  2. Darby Weaver on March 17th, 2010 12:58 pm

    Well…

    You may be right – It seems Narbik has been challenged – No… wait “Double-Dog Dared” – to not issue waivers to his students by a Groupstudy.com person named Redrose (that looks like the real surname of the person).

    So if the OEQ is really “No Big Deal”…

    1. Why offer it in the first place?

    2. Why is no one passing and some (many by now) claiming that they even passed the lab nearly perfectly and missed the OEQ…?

    3. If Narbik takes the bate and publicly announces he will not honor the waiver then I’ll be more inclined to see your point about the OEQ being “No Big Deal”.

    Right now it is just that… a very big deal or am I the only one reading the threads.

    If the OEQ questions are bad for the Cisco 360 Instructors and the CCIE Program…

    They should be bad for all instructors.

    No favoritism.

    Besides… how many have passed the CCIE Labs from the 360… any?

    If a decent percentage were passing… hell if 50% were passing… I might agree with you…

    The numbers are not there to support the proposition that the Cisco 360 Instructors are doing a good enough job to exempt their students.

    More people are passing and reporting non-360 materials and classes…

    Why aren’t those students exempt.

    Darby Weaver

    http://www.darbyslogs.blogspot.com

  3. Darby Weaver on March 17th, 2010 12:59 pm

    FYI – The 360 Students were not passing in great numbers since the program’s inception.

    It’s almost backwards…

    Not a whole lot of the free retakes reported a pass either.

  4. Samer Ghishan on April 7th, 2010 2:15 am

    Can anyone tell me which courses of the CCIE 360 program we should attend to skip the OEQs? should I attend both of the workshops( CIERS1, CIERS 2 ) to request a waiver?

    Samer Ghishan

  5. CCIE Journey on April 7th, 2010 9:43 am

    Pretty sure you need to attend both of them. You will want to check here though.

    https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-6842

  6. Chan on May 10th, 2010 9:54 pm

    Good news! CCIE R&S open ended question has been omitted from the Lab Exam starting from Apr 10, 2010.

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