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As with Ethan I left groupstudy’s ccielab mailing list today. I couldn’t take all the noise either anymore. The constant posts on whether CCIE is worth it anymore, the posts on “I passed my CCIE lab with only two months of studying…” (hmmm wonder what practice labs were used in those two months,) just are getting too old. I met some great people on that list so it isn’t a total wash. Himawan’s post on his update to obtaining your CCIE turned into another CCIE vs the world argument. Seriously if you are looking to obtain your CCIE to become rich and famous you will be very disappointed. The CCIE is not a panacea for anyone’s career. I choose to do it because it is the top certification in the industry and to learn as much as I can, not to get my number and try to go out and get a six figure job the next day…


4 Responses to “Unsubscribed from ccielab”

  1. RawCode on March 11th, 2008 10:43 am

    That is the problem with a lot of really popular lists. Just a poor signal to noise ratio…

  2. Ethan Banks on March 11th, 2008 11:30 am

    “Seriously if you are looking to obtain your CCIE to become rich and famous you will be very disappointed. The CCIE is not a panacea for anyones career.”

    Exactly! For me, CCIE is an evolution in my career. Looking forward, I anticipate that CCIE will open doors for me that wouldn’t have opened otherwise. When will they open? I don’t know. In the meantime, I’m happy where I’m at, and satisfied being a better engineer than I was when I started down this road.

  3. Scott Vermillion on March 11th, 2008 2:54 pm

    Interesting timing. I was just thinking last night that the lab list is chewing up a fair bit of my time, yet the discussions aren’t particularly technical in many cases these days. So I’m giving and gaining little for my valuable time, it would seem. And in many cases I’m just wasting that of others by joining the fray.

    I tuned the list out in the final few months of lab prep so I could focus (just basically deleted everything every day because my initial attempts to unsubscribe were unsuccessful). When I returned after passing the lab, either I had changed or the list had. Or both. Either way, I’m likely to retain my membership on the SP list (which sees all of about one e-mail a week, LOL) but drop my participation in R&S.

    I’ve also been a long-standing member on the Professional board, but the scholarly days of study there are long gone. Now it’s just a dumping ground for people who don’t know how to do their jobs and want others to step in any lay it all out for them – free of course.

    Too bad. I can’t say the list played a big role in my passing the lab, but overall GS had a very significant impact on my career – particularly in those early days when the Professional board was swarming with Cisco Press authors and noted industry experts/leaders. They were forced out by the OT/do-my-job-for-me crowd years ago. I’ve just been too stubborn to acknowledge that fact…

  4. Carl Yost Jr. on March 12th, 2008 8:04 am

    @ Rawcode – Isn’t that the truth :(…

    @ Ethan – It is always about evolution and growing as an engineer, it is too bad people try to obtain it just for monetary reasons. Those people usually end up bringing the certification down…

    @ Scott – I noticed how much of a dumping ground it has become in only the few years I have been on it. It is so sad the legends have left. I do like IPExperts list though. It doesn’t have a ton of traffic but all of the emails are on topic and answered fairly quickly.

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