As with Ethan I left groupstudy’s ccielab mailing list today. I couldn’t take all the noise either anymore. The constant posts on whether CCIE is worth it anymore, the posts on “I passed my CCIE lab with only two months of studying…” (hmmm wonder what practice labs were used in those two months,) just are getting too old. I met some great people on that list so it isn’t a total wash. Himawan’s post on his update to obtaining your CCIE turned into another CCIE vs the world argument. Seriously if you are looking to obtain your CCIE to become rich and famous you will be very disappointed. The CCIE is not a panacea for anyone’s career. I choose to do it because it is the top certification in the industry and to learn as much as I can, not to get my number and try to go out and get a six figure job the next day…